Hi I just watched your cat collector video. I have to say I learned alot and hope to be more successful at taking cats. Just a few questions if you don’t mind. About how wide and deep are the trenches. And I plan on modifying the pans on my mb650s but they are also used to take coyotes early in the year and I was wondering if you think that it would hurt me on them. Do you have problems with animals being on the jaws and firing the trap and it throwing their feet out of the trap and missing them. J.M.
The trench on my bobcat sets are about 2-3 inches deep on flat ground. It can be 12 inches deep if I am going into the side of a hill or a spoil bank on the side of a road. Saying that, if rain is in the forecast I will make the set on flat ground and make the trench level, but block in the sides of the trench with sticks and brush like you see on the video. If rain is a common factor when you trap like it is in most areas, a trench that is below grade will hold water and stay sloppy muddy mess. Bobcats do not like this.
I have found that about 7-8 inches is best on the width of the trench. This is plenty big to allow the bobcat to enter trench and get over you traps. To much bigger than this and the bobcat will have to many options to work the trap set and he may not get caught. Bobcats are not afraid to enter tight places.
Once you go to the big pans on your MB 650′s for bobcats, you will find that your coyote catch will increase also. I know it would seem that you would get toe catches on coyotes. To be honest, I don’t know why I don’t see very many toe catches with big pans, but I don’t. Go out to the shop and set a trap with a big pan. Lay it on the ground. Take a heavy pipe our something like it. Make sure it weighs 15-20 pounds on the end you fire the trap with. Place the pipe were it is on the end on the pan. You will see that because the pipe is heavy like a coyote or bobcat, the trap will close and rotate to get a good catch on the pipe. This is probably what happens when a coyote hits the pan and jaw at the same time. A slow trap is fast. A trap does not have the power to raise a coyotes. A coyote or bobcat is not the same as using a light stick to fire the trap like most people do to show the stick flips up. Go with the big pan and you will not want to use “normal” again.
good luck on your bobcat and coyote line this winter,
Glad you like the our web sites and yes, your family relative could make a nice carrier in Predator Control. Kind of what you asking for is a 5 minute crash course from a car mechanic on how to take out a car motor, rebuild that motor, install that motor back into the car and then tune it. This is a very open ended question, so I will go over the basics. First off, a person needs to spend several years learning how to trap, snare and call predators. To be good enough to charge folks and not have them mad about the results, one must be very good at catching coyotes, bobcats, fox and nest predators. To someone on the out side of trapping, the art of trapping looks simple and it would seem that it could be learned in a few weeks or even a year. Not true, it take years for a very smart person to get at a level to target predator the way it should be done. I don’t want to discourage you family member from going down this path, but it is a reality.
Once a guy or girl gets to a high level of trapping skills, he has to get other folks to pay him or her. This is were most want to be predator control companies fall on their face. Predator control is a business like any other business. It is a super tight niche market. As your family member learns how to trap in fall, winter, spring and summer (all very different), he needs to be learning the business side of predator control. I think trapping is about 30-40% of a trapping business. The rest is the art of getting customers.
I hope you don’t take this wrong way, but picking my or one of my guys brains on all thing “predator Control”, would take a couple of days on the trapping and 12 -14 hours on the business side. We do this, but we charge for it. We love helping trappers, but we have to make a living also. We charge for personal instruction or for one of out trapping schools on predator control. The instruction is for two days to a full week, all day long. We also have a business course that we teach guys that want to make a living trapping it is 14 hours long.
I would recommend that your family member, trap everyday this fall and winter for fur. First things first, does he like trapping or will he get burnt out on it in a few weeks or months. Please don’t take this response the wrong way. I am a cheerleader to anyone one that wants to follow a dream. I help people do this all the time. But one has to understand the reality of that dream and what the road to meet that dream will be like. This is not an easy job or business to get right year after year. Can it be done, you bet! If he wants to go down this road I hope he makes it better than I have.